Saturday, May 09, 2009


Advice for New Pastors 1

This past year Allan Hugh Cole, professor at Austin Presbyterian Seminary, has edited a book for new pastors, From Midterms to Ministry (Eerdmans). I was asked to write a chapter in the volume, recounting my own journey from seminary to the parish, drawing out any implications that my experience had for new pastors.

This month, thousands of new pastors will emerge from seminary, a few of them coming to join the ranks of the North Alabama Conference. I therefore offer these thoughts in the next few weeks, hoping that they will be helpful to those of us who are new in the pastoral ministry and those who are not.


In retrospect, my first year as a pastor was perhaps the most painful, frightening year of my entire ministry. Part of the terror that I experienced was my fear of failure, not simply to fail at being an effective pastor (I had little means of knowing what being “effective” would look like), but rather my fear that I had failed to discern God’s will for my life. What I had thought was my tortured, gradually dawning, wrestling with “call to the ministry,” might be revealed as something other than God’s idea. Looking back, I realize now that the early bumps and potholes that I experienced during the course of that first year were so disconcerting because each one of them made me wonder: maybe my friends are right. Maybe I don’t have what it takes to be a pastor. Perhaps the church really is a waste of my life.

As it turned out, I received more confirmation of my vocation in that first year than invalidation. Wonder of wonders, God really did occasionally speak through me to God’s people, God really did sometimes use me to work a wonder, and God’s people – some of them – really did respond to my ministry. I came to realize that much of my consternation was due, not to my own lack of preparation, or to inadequacies in me or in the church but rather to a move I was making from one world to another.

I recently heard Marcus Borg of the errant “Jesus Seminar” chide us pastors for protecting our congregations from the glorious fruits of “contemporary biblical scholarship.” There’s a brave new world of insight through the historical-critical study of Scripture! Don’t hold back from giving the people in the pew the real truth about Jesus as it has been uncovered by contemporary biblical scholarship and faithfully delivered to you in seminary biblical courses. He implied that even the laity, in their intellectual limitations, can take the truth about Jesus as revealed by Professor Borg and his academic friends.

Yet it seemed not to occur to professor Borg that contemporary biblical scholarship, because it is asking the wrong questions of the biblical texts, and even more because it is subservient to a community that is at odds with communities of faith, may simply be irrelevant both to the church and to the intent of the church’s Scripture. Sometimes the dissonance between the church and the academy is due, not to the benighted nature of the church, but rather to the limited thought that reigns in the academy.

It took me a long time to learn this. As I said, I remember experiencing that dissonance in my first days in my first church in rural Georgia. I was the freshly minted product of Yale Divinity School now forlorn and forsaken in a poor little parish in rural Georgia. My first surprise was how difficult it was to communicate. If was as if I were speaking a different language. As I preached, my congregation impassively looked at me across a seemingly unbridgeable gulf.

At first I figured that the problem was a gap in education. (Educated people are continued to think this way when dealing with the uneducated.) I had nineteen years of formal education behind me; many of them had less than twelve. Most of my education involved lots of writing and talking, whereas they seemed taciturn and reserved.

I was impressed that they knew more about some things than I. Mostly, they talked and thought with the Bible. They easily, quite naturally referred to Scripture in their conversation, freely using biblical metaphors, sometime referring to obscure biblical texts that I had never read. If they had not read the masters of my thought – Bultmann, Tillich, and Barth, then I had no way to speak to them. I had been in a world that based communicating upon conversations about the thought of others, rather than worrying overmuch about my own thoughts. I realized that my divinity school had made me adept in construing the world psychologically, sociologically (that is, anthropologically) rather than theologically. The only conceptual equipment my people had was that provided by the church, whereas most of my means of making sense were given to me by the academy. Their interpretation of the world was not simply primitive, or simple, or na├»ve, as I first thought. Rather they were thinking in ways that were different from my ways of thinking. I came to realize that we were not simply speaking from different perspectives and experiences; it was as if we were speaking across the boundaries of two different worlds.

When a theologically trained seminary graduate like me confronts the sociological reality of the church, when a new pastor, schooled in a vision of the church as it ought to be, has his or her nose rubbed in the church as it is, it’s a collision that is the concern of this book. The leap between academia and ecclesia can be a challenge

I want to avoid a characterization of the challenge as a leap between the goofy ideal (ecclesia as portrayed in the thoughtful academy) and the gritty real (ecclesia as it is in all its grubby mediocrity). Sometimes new pastors say, “Seminary did not prepare me for the true work of ministry,” or “There is too great a gap between what I was told in seminary and what the church really is.”

I do not want to put the matter in a way that privileges academia over ecclesia, as if to imply that to theological schools and seminaries has been given the noble vision of the real, true, faithful church whereas it has been given to the church the grubby, impossible task of actually being the church, putting all that high falutin’ theological theory into institutional praxis.

The challenge is not to stretch oneself between the ideal and the real, or the clash between the theoretical and the practical, the challenge is in finding oneself in the middle of an intersection where two intellectual worlds collide. True, there is often a disconcerting disconnect between the questions being raised in the seminary and the answers that constitute the church. Yet there may also be the problem that the seminary is preoccupied with the wrong questions, or at least questions that arise from intentions other than the Kingdom of God and its fullness.

The Seminary’s World

To be sure, it’s risky to attempt to characterize so complex and diverse a phenomenon as “the seminary.” My characterization arises out of nearly thirty years on a mainline protestant seminary faculty and visits, in the course of time, to over forty different theological schools. Some of my books have become standard texts in the curriculum of a few dozen seminaries, so I know at least a large part of the world of the seminary.

I am helped, in attempting to generalize about theological education, because the world of the seminary is more uniform and standardized than the world of the church. Seminaries, be they large or small, conservative or liberal, have more in common than the churches they serve. They have patterned their internal lives, constructed their curricula, selected their faculties, and have expectations of their students that are based more on the models of other seminaries than on the mission of the church. That’s only one of the problems of theological schools.

Seminaries, at least those in our church, labor under a growing disconnect between the graduates they are producing and the leadership needs of the churches these graduates are serving. This disjunction causes friction in and sometimes defeat of the transition between seminary and church for new pastors. For example, most protestant seminaries have organized themselves on the basis of modern, Western ways of knowing. The epistemology that still holds theological education captive is that which was borrowed from the modern university – detached objectively, the fact/value dichotomy, the separation of emotion and reason with the exaltation of reason as the superior means of knowing, the sovereignty of subjectivity, the loss of any authority other than the isolated, sovereign self pared with subservience to the social, cultural, and political needs of the modern nation state. (The best history of what happened in our seminaries in the Twentieth Century is by Conrad Cherry, Hurrying Toward Zion: Universities, Divinity Schools and American Protestantism, Indiana University Press, 1995.)

That’s saying a mouthful but it is an attempt to depict the intellectual “world” of the theological school that has a tough time honoring the intellectual restrictions of academia and the peculiarly sweeping mandate of the church of Jesus Christ.

The word “seminary” means literally “seed bed.” Seminary was meant to be the nursery where budding theologians are cultivated and seeds are planted that will bear good fruit, God willing, in the future. Trouble is, seminaries thought they could simply overlay those governmentally patronized, culturally confirmed ways of academic thinking over the church’s ways of thought, and proceed right along as if nothing had happened between the seminary as the church created it to be (a place to equip and form new pastoral leaders for the church) and the seminary as it became (another graduate/professional school).

In the world of the contemporary theological school, faculty talk mostly to one another (As Nietzsche noted, long ago, no one reads theologians except for other theologians.), faculty accredit and tenure other faculty using criteria derived mainly from the modern, secular research university. While the seminary desperately needs faculty who are adept at negotiating the tension between ecclesia and academia, faculty tend to be best at bedding down in academia. The AAR (American Academy of Religion) owns theological education.

One last disconnect I’ll mention: The seminary, by its nature, is a selective, elitist institution, selecting and evaluating its students with criteria that are derived from educational institutions rather than the ecclesia. In one sense, a theological school should be selective, astutely selecting these students who can most benefit Christ’s future work with the church. Trouble is, when criteria are applied that arise from sources other than the Body of Christ, we have the phenomenon of the church’s leadership schools cranking out people who have little interest in equipment for service to the church as it is called to be. If college departments of Religious Studies were not in decline, there would be something to do with the best of these seminary graduates. If the U S Post Office were not holding its employees more accountable for their performance, the rest of them would have promising careers.

For instance, when my District Superintendents and I interviewed a group of soon to be graduates in one of our seminaries, we were distinctly unimpressed with their responses. Here we were before them saying, in effect, “We are a declining organization. We are looking for people who will come into the United Methodist ministry, take some risks, attempt to grow some new churches and new ministries, and help lead us out of our current malaise.” Yet the seminarians we were conversing with struck us as mostly those interested in being care givers to established congregations, caretakers of ministries that someone else long before them had initiated, and in general, to be people who were attracted to our church’s ministry precisely because they would never, ever have to take a risk with Jesus.

When I was critical of the students we were meeting, one of the pastors with me said, “Look, you have people who have spent a lifetime in school learning nothing more than how to be in school. They have been taught by tenured faculty who have given their lives to doing well in academia and thereby getting tenure and never having again to take a risk in their lives. Faculty who are not held accountable for their performance or results are not likely to educate clergy who are focused on accountability or results.”

When seminaries appoint faculty who have little skill or inclination to traffic between academia and church, is there any wonder why the products of their teaching find that transition to be so difficult? Alas, what many graduates do is quickly to jettison “all that theology stuff” that seminary attempted to teach and relent to the “real world” of the congregation, the rest of their ministry simply flying by the seat of their pants. The seminary may self-flatteringly think of itself as the vanguard of the thought of the church when in reality it is an agent for the preservation of the church’s boring status quo.

The Church’s World

Seminarians who have been schooled in modern, Western notions that they are primarily individuals, detached persons whose main source of authority is their own subjectivity, have thereby been inculcated into the unchristian notion that they should think for themselves. What a shock to enter their first parish and find that church is an essentially group phenomenon, an inherently traditioned enterprise. Our most original thinking occurs when we think, not by ourselves, but with the saints. The best thing that seminary has done for its graduates, if it has done its work, is to introduce them to the burden and the blessing of the church’s tradition, to form them into advocates for the collective witness of the church, and to make believe that the church is God’s answer to what’s wrong with the world. Yet the way that the seminary engages the witness of the saints makes it difficult for new pastors to think with the saints.

For example, Scripture, the tradition of the church, has a privileged place in the communication of the church. Pastors are ordained, ordered to bear that tradition compellingly, faithfully, quite unoriginally before their congregations, not primarily so that their congregations can think through the tradition, but rather so that they can, in their discipleship incarnate Christian truth. We pastors are not free to rummage about in the recesses of our own egos, not free to consult other extraecclesial texts until we have first done business with Scripture and the great tradition. Alas, too much of today’s theological training (arising out of the German university of the Nineteenth Century) places the modern reader above the texts of the church, assuming a privileged, detached and superior position to the church’s historic faith. The academic guild stands in judgment upon the texts, raising questions ab out the texts. Thus it comes as a jolt for the seminarian to graduate and to find him or herself cast in the role of the ordained, the official who leads the church not in detached criticism of these texts but rather in faithful embodiment of the sacred texts.

In my book, Pastor: The Theology and Practice of Ordained Ministry (Abingdon, 2002), I observed that many seminarians tend to be introverted, reflective, personal seekers after God whereas the church is heavily politicized and communal. Pastors are supremely “community persons,” officials of an institution, leaders who the church expects to worry about community and group cohesion with a Savior whose salvation is always a group phenomenon. The seminarian who is trained occasionally to write a speech for a group of individuals, sometimes to do one-on-one counseling, to form intense personal relationships within a conglomerate of individuals, finds herself flung into a politically charged, complex organization, a family system that requires astute knowledge of group dynamics and wise leadership of a divisive group of people who have been caught in the dragnet of God’s expansive grace in Christ. When Chrysostom argued his own inadequacy to be a pastor or bishop, it was precisely this public quality of Christian leadership that he cited as the reason why he did not have what it takes to be a pastor.

Sadly, too often the seminary has taught its students to step back from the Christian tradition and its Scriptures, to reflect, learn to critique, and actively to question. True, such stepping back and critique are developmentally appropriate for the formation of the church’s leaders. Yet when the seminarian becomes a pastor, she takes her place as leader of an organization that has goals like embodiment, engagement, involvement, participation, and full-hearted commitment, embrace of the enemy, hospitality to the stranger, group cohesion, koinonia. The whole point of discipleship is not cool consideration of Jesus but rather following Jesus. The person who fails to make the move from being the lone individual, confronting the faith, tending his or her own spiritual garden, to the role of a public leader of a group, is the person who will have a tough time in the first parish.

Today many describe the ordained ministry as “servant leadership.” The peculiar service that the church needs from those who ordained is that they step up, lay aside their own spiritual quandaries, and speak for the church to the church. They must, as the bishop tells them in the ordinal, “take authority,” cultivating in themselves the habit of thinking more about the community and its needs than their own. Students who have been enculturated into the world of the academy -- in which students must defer and submit to the authority of the professor, who has submitted to the authority of the academic guild – sometimes have difficulty standing up in a congregation and, in service to the community, taking charge, casting a vision, and taking the time and doing the work to build a group of allies who will join the pastor in moving toward responsibility for Christ’s mission into the world.

I, therefore, say to seminarians, upon their graduation, you are not just taking on a new job, you are moving to a new world.

Will Willimon


Steven Manskar said...

Thank you. This is a word the church and the theological academy needs to hear.

Anonymous said...

My first year of ministry will end at annual conference. I haven't experienced the disconnect as you described and I think for two reasons.
1. I serve at a very large church with 8 other clergy on staff. We strive for community among the staff. I'm sure this would have been very different in a rural church.
2. I graduated from Perkins May 2008 and had it not been for one professor I would not have been thinking in terms of visionary leadership. Elaine Heath, professor of evangelism, helped dramatically to think in terms of church planting and revitalization in ways that made my heart come alive and fire me up for ministry in a time wondering why I was even in seminary. I was at a point where I was ready to drop out of school because I wanted to serve the church and see people come to faith, but I felt so disconnected from real life and real people.

Andy Rowell said...

There is a lot here and having been the teaching assistant for Introduction to Christian Ministry and The Local Church in Mission with Bishop Ken Carder at Duke Divinity School this year, I am starting to get a feel for what you are talking about.

Two comments--not criticism--just my own thoughts to what you have said here:

First, there is a suspicion of biblical studies (similar to your criticism of Borg) that unfortunately gets projected into suspicion of the Bible. "Borg wants me to use historical-critical insights therefore I had better not study the Bible but rather stick with Augustine." I wish there was more appreciation for the Bible even if there is a suspicion of SBL-style Biblical Studies. In this article, you make the distinction well--keep the tradition/Bible but be wary of experts who take a posture over the Bible.

Second, I can't help but also think about my experience teaching Christian ministry at Taylor University and my own MDiv at Regent College--both evangelical institutions. Students who graduate from these programs on the whole tend to not end up in pastoral ministry. While in the UM system, MDiv grads are all but assured a placement, in these more independent institutions, the track is more complicated even if some are seeking ordination in a denomination. The ones who are unafraid of the politics and have had rich inspiring experiences in the church go for it. But getting a position is often quite a big undertaking so the politics start long before the first day in the pulpit. In other words, those with initiative and people skills end up getting the jobs, while others often end up deciding to do something other than pastor.

I always enjoy what you write.


William H. Willimon said...

Thank you all. Great thoughts, Andy. Thanks for sharing them. I was particularly interested in your insights from your time at Taylor and Regent.

Time and again, at Duke, I taught folks who were wonderful scholars, but with a rather limited idea of what being an “intellectual” meant. I don’t like the label, but I guess I am arguing that pastors need to be sort of “public intellectuals.” Too often some of our “best” div. students just can’t negotiate the “politics” of leading a rather complex volunteer organization like the Body of Christ. As you say, they don’t make it.

I wonder if div. school could do a better job of training for those political challenges? I can’t stand most of the “leadership” stuff that is all the rage these days, still maybe our student need a dose of it.

I’ve got a management coach, retired business guy, who has his office next to mine and is constantly teaching me. I’ve learned so much that is so valuable from him. He says that “being a pastor is a tougher management job than being CEO of General Motors.” There are real challenges that pastors face.

Of course, management challenges are supremely intellectual challenges too. I think my job is much more intellectually demanding than my job as Dean of Duke Chapel. I’m having to learn new skills and insights every single day.

Thanks for the conversation!


Was this too turgid for you? Still sore about your evaluation of my writing.

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Anonymous said...

I appreciate your thoughts. As a student licensed pastor serving a three point rural charge while simultaneously working towards my M. Div., I would encourage you to take a close look at a tiny little evangelical seminary in Sioux Falls, South Dakota. They appear to be with you on this line of thinking, and as a result, their curriculum is reflective of their goal of producing Christ-centered pastors rather than modernist academics. ~ajb

David said...

You wrote of your cabinet saying to new graduates, "We are looking for people who will come into the United Methodist ministry, take some risks, attempt to grow some new churches and new ministries, and help lead us out of our current malaise.” Is the conference ready to support them in that?

Let me tell you a story about an appointment I had:

Every Sunday, while the larger church had Sunday School, I drove out to preach to a group of seven or eight people at the smaller church, most of whom drove past some other United Methodist church to get there. One week I was up at Lake Junaluska at Lab School training (this was some years ago, obviously), and during one of the presentations I was struck by the words, "One of the most important factors in the growth of the Sunday School is the involvement of the pastor." I thought to myself: If that's true, then why am I always somewhere else while Sunday School is going on? If The United Methodist Church believes that the pastor needs to be involved in the Sunday School, then why did the bishop tell me to be out preaching somewhere else every time Sunday School is going on?

I suppose I could have told the folks at the smaller church, "You're going to have to start coming to worship at 8 AM, because I have to be back at the other church in time for Sunday School." I wonder what the DS would have said when they started calling him the next day. I wonder whether those in authority over me would have backed me up. I guess I had been part of the system too long to give that a try. Or maybe it was knowing that, without the smaller church's contribution, my salary would be back at the minimum.

There are plenty of disconnects within our own United Methodist system, and I think that the distance between the local church and the annual conference may be as large as the distance between the church and the seminary. The cabinet may want risk-takers, but, most of the time, it's not the cabinet that's paying the bills. If these new folks believe you, and they take the risks, can they count on the conference to stand by them?

William H. Willimon said...

Great to hear from you again. Your message brought back some great
memories of days gone by in SC!

It's sort of hard to respond to your question -- will the Cabinet stand
behind pastors who take risks? In the abstract.

I will just say that I am hard pressed to think of many situations
(any?) since I've been here as bishop where I've had to urge myself or
the Cabinet to stand up and support a risk taking pastor. That's not to
say that we haven't had pastors who for a variety of reasons run into
trouble, but I don't recall any of them saying, "Are you going to back
me up bishop?"

Truth to tell, very few of our pastors seem to take risks that require a
bishop to stand up for them! I thought this would be a major challenge
-- knowing when to stand up for a pastor in doing some difficult, risky
work. I think I'm glad to do that, but we just don't have many risk
takers among us, despite our Conference vision statement! Don't you
think that most of us pastors are better trained (by the seminaries!) to
manage stuff rather than to undo, redo, and change stuff?